REAL ID or Papers Please?

REAL ID is going to be a fact, whether we like it or not. The government keeps insisting that it is not a National ID Card. Well, when you insist on having ONE standard form of identification for everyone and IF everyone has to carry one by 2013; and IF you will need to present it to enter any government building or national park starting in 2009; or present it to get on your flight for your business trip or vacation, even when NOT leaving the country, then in my book that makes it a National ID card.

What’s more, in the act itself is the insidious provision that the government can add to the list of places it will be required. That means, they could add libraries, movie theaters, grocery stores, etc to the list of places you will be required to show it. We could see the day when you would need it just to buy a loaf of bread to feed yourself or your children.

One burning question I have is “is this even Constitutional?” I’ve been under the impression that States still had a right to make their own decisions. The Federal Government is not supposed to be passing laws. The People are supposed to be controlling the Government. What part of that doesn’t the White House, or Congress, or the Senate understand? The Founding Fathers were careful in their contruction of Constitution for that very reason. They knew what could happen if a Central Government got too powerful.

Now, for all the insistance going on that this is NOT a National ID card, look how CNN titles this latest article for it:

Federal ID plan raises privacy concerns

(CNN) — Americans may need passports to board domestic flights or to picnic in a national park next year if they live in one of the states defying the federal Real ID Act.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff says there are no plans for a federal database of drivers’ information.

The act, signed in 2005 as part of an emergency military spending and tsunami relief bill, aims to weave driver’s licenses and state ID cards into a sort of national identification system by May 2008. The law sets baseline criteria for how driver’s licenses will be issued and what information they must contain.

The Department of Homeland Security insists Real ID is an essential weapon in the war on terror, but privacy and civil liberties watchdogs are calling the initiative an overly intrusive measure that smacks of Big Brother.

More than half the nation’s state legislatures have passed or proposed legislation denouncing the plan, and some have penned bills expressly forbidding compliance.

Several states have begun making arrangements for the new requirements — four have passed legislation applauding the measure — but even they may have trouble meeting the act’s deadline.

The cards would be mandatory for all “federal purposes,” which include boarding an airplane or walking into a federal building, nuclear facility or national park, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told the National Conference of State Legislatures last week.Citizens in states that don’t comply with the new rules will have to use passports for federal purposes.

“For terrorists, travel documents are like weapons,” Chertoff said. “We do have a right and an obligation to see that those licenses reflect the identity of the person who’s presenting it.”

Chertoff said the Real ID program is essential to national security because there are presently 8,000 types of identification accepted to enter the United States.

I may only be a normal average citizen, BUT “Federal ID” is the same as “National ID” in my book. What do you think?

The Department of Homeland Security claims it is necessary for our National Security. Well, answer me this: What the hell is this card going to do to secure our borders and ports? What good is this card when you are in the process of combining the North American Continent into ONE North American Union? What good is this card when we are outsourcing our defense, passports, etc? DHS claims that the REAL ID card will not be able to be forged. I’d like to see some proof of THAT.

People living in States that don’t comply (this is also supposed to voluntary mind you) will have to use a Passport. I don’t have a passport, so now I’ll be forced to either get a “national ID card” or a passport if I want to board a plane? I could have sworn I was living in America. You know, LAND OF THE FREE!! Now with the manufacture of U.S. passports being outsourced it won’t be too hard for terrorists to get themselves a U.S. Passport which will let them get a “national ID card”.

All I keep hearing in my head is “Papers Please”, with a German or Russian accent.

From the same article:

Everyone must visit DMV by 2013

The Real ID Act repealed a provision in the 9/11 Commission Implementation Act calling for state and federal officials to examine security standards for driver’s licenses.

It called instead for states to begin issuing new federal licenses, lasting no longer than eight years, by May 11, 2008, unless they are granted an extension.

It also requires all 245 million license and state ID holders to visit their local departments of motor vehicles and apply for a Real ID by 2013. Applicants must bring a photo ID, birth certificate, proof of Social Security number and proof of residence, and states must maintain and protect massive databases housing the information.

NCSL spokesman Bill Wyatt said the requirements are “almost physically impossible.” States will have to build new facilities, secure those facilities and shell out for additional equipment and personnel.

Those costs are going to fall back on the American taxpayer, he said. It might be in the form of a new transportation, motor vehicle or gasoline tax. Or you might find it tacked on to your next state tax bill. In Texas, Wyatt said, one official told him that without federal funding, the Lone Star State might have to charge its citizens more than $100 for a license.

I just love how they are using 9/11 as their justification for this. Do they honestly believe that if we had a national ID card sooner 9/11 wouldn’t have happened? Well, now that I think about it….maybe it wouldn’t have happened THEN………….but it still would have happened. Where there is a will there is always a way and any terrorist really wanting to attack, will in time reach their goal I’m sure.

And don’t forget, this plan will cost states billions of dollar, and the feds who are forcing it on us (but it’s still only voluntary, remember), are barely ponying up any money (not that they have it themselves either). Most states are cash strapped as it is and they really can’t put enough taxes on a pack of cigarettes to reach this goal. But that won’t stop them for they will have NO choice but to place the burden of the cost on the taxpayer, which is where the feds would have to go for that money also. Either way, we are being forced to pay for something we are being forced into doing.

Then there’s the question of privacy. In todays world it seems easier and easier for low-lifes to get our information no matter how careful everyone is.

Privacy concerns raised

Colorado and New Hampshire lawmakers are not alone. Groups like the American Civil Liberties Union and Electronic Frontier Foundation say the IDs and supporting databases — which Chertoff said would eventually be federally interconnected — will infringe on privacy.

EFF says on its Web site that the information in the databases will lay the groundwork for “a wide range of surveillance activities” by government and businesses that “will be able to easily read your private information” because of the bar code required on each card.

The databases will provide a one-stop shop for identity thieves, adds the ACLU on its Web site, and the U.S. “surveillance society” and private sector will have access to the system “for the routine tracking, monitoring and regulation of individuals’ movements and activities.”

The civil liberties watchdog dubs the IDs “internal passports” and claims it wouldn’t be long before office buildings, gas stations, toll booths, subways and buses begin accessing the system.

But Chertoff told legislators last week that DHS has no intention of creating a federal database, and Walsh, of the Heritage Foundation, said the ACLU’s allegations are disingenuous.

States will be permitted to share data only when validating someone’s identity, Walsh said.

“The federal government wouldn’t have any greater access to driver’s license information than it does today,” Walsh said.

States have the right to refuse to comply with the program, he said, and they also have the right to continue issuing IDs and driver’s licenses that don’t meet Real ID requirements.

But, Walsh said, “any state that’s refusing to implement this key recommendation by the 9/11 Commission, and whose state driver’s licenses are as a result used in another terrorist attack, should be held responsible.”

I know there are those who will argue that all our information is out there anyway. I know there are those who will say that if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about. These aren’t the issues. The issue is all this information being on ONE location. At least now it’s scattered around. The issue is not that I have something to hide, just that I dislike the idea of being “watched” all the time.

Watched? OH, did I forget to mention that passports will now have RFID chips in them? I’d bet the farm that the REAL ID’s will also be embedded with an RFID chip. It only makes sense that it does IF the only acceptable forms of ID in the U.S. will soon be a U.S. Passport OR National ID Card.

Here’s some more sights you will want to check out regarding the new “Papers Please” national ID cards.



To find out about the States against REAL ID, and if your State is one of them, visit:

Legislators Against REAL

Hello, I’m state Representative Jim Guest from Missouri. Welcome to L.A.R.I., Legislators Against Real ID Act. I hope this site informs you and helps you to develop an understanding of how the Real ID act will affect the American People if it is left unchallenged.

Legislators Against Real ID, L.A.R.I., is a coalition of states formed to put up a united front against the federal governments effort to impose a national identification program. This website was put in place to update Americans on the progress of the Real ID legislation and to activate Americans to contact their representatives to take action.

The Real ID Act is just one of many pieces of legislation from the Federal Government which, if allowed, would do considerable damage to the freedom of America.


The REAL ID ACT of 2005 implements an international biometric ID system that threatens religious freedom, privacy and personal security, states’ rights to issue identification, our nation’s sovereignty and will most certainly cause an ID theft pandemic.

On March 1st, 2007, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) issued its proposed rules for state compliance to REAL ID. The €œNotice of Proposed Rulemaking€ €“ NPRM, requires states to adopt international identification standards set by two international organizations, the AAMVA and the ICAO. For years, the AAMVA has worked with state, federal and international agencies to establish international driver’s license/ID card (DL/ID card) standards that utilize biometrics, such as digital fingerprinting, facial image recognition, etc.

NPRM also requires states to adopt ICAO’s (International Civil Aviation Organization) €œbiometric data interchange formats€ for REAL ID photos. All REAL ID photos will be compatible with international biometric facial image recognition systems. Facial recognition creates a digital map of one’s face so that a computer/surveillance camera can potentially identify the individual without ID documents.

The ICAO is affiliated with the UN, tracks the movements of international travelers and is charged with the design of international biometric e-passports being adopted by almost all nations. REAL ID is INTERNATIONAL ID.

States and nations have adopted common biometric standards set by the ICAO and the AAMVA, but global biometrics cannot work unless nations link their databases containing personal-biometric information. Once linked, it will be possible for a surveillance system in Germany to identify a person, whose personal-biometric information was collected in Montana. As a result, REAL ID also requires states to link databases, setting the stage to global data sharing.

    An international biometric system requires three things:
    1. Common standards (ICAO-AAMVA)
    2. Biometric enrollment (passports, DL/ID cards, military ID, birth records, etc.)
    3. International personal-biometric database linking-sharing

DHS intends to link databases.

DHS official, Robert Mocny of US-VISIT, declares We’re starting a process of biometrifying (sic) a good portion of the world population.€ and €œinformation sharing is appropriate around the world,€ and they plan to create a €œGlobal Security Envelope of internationally shared biometric data that would permanently link individuals with biometric ID, personal information held by governments and corporations€ (re: Government Computer News 2005-2007).

Now might be a good time to read, or re-read, George Orwell’s 1984. It is here now.


~ by swfreedomlover on March 31, 2008.

8 Responses to “REAL ID or Papers Please?”

  1. I too am very concerned about the “police state” developing and believe that these ID programs are a very real threat to our liberty and freedom. Where will it all lead? An Orwellian world does seem likely. You may be interested in looking at some of the articles such as Chaos and Consent: Working Towards the Fuhrer, found here!, where there is an ongoing discussion about this and related matters. Thanks for your post.

  2. Kate,

    Thank you for visiting. I understand your concerns and fears as it is so plainly obvious that we are going down a path that ends with the United States of America no longer being what she once was. How so many don’t see this is even more frightening. It’s like they put something in the water and everyone is suddenly deaf, dumb and blind. What’s interesting to me is that the people I find who see these things seem to be smokers for the most part. To me that helps explain the sudden aggressive push to try to eliminate smoking worldwide over the past few years, because it really is only the past 5 years or so that the smoking issue has been aggressively attacked.

    Then you see the same tactics being applied regarding weight and global warming. It won’t be long now before they start banning books. They seem to be starting in on home schoolers also, many of whom see traditional classrooms as indoctrination centers. Considering how our children are graduating without being able to even count back change from a dollar, I tend to agree. WHAT are they teaching our children? Besides all the propaganda that is.

    And the war cry of “for the children” is so totally worn thin now. I believe Hitler used that one also, and he most definitely used the children to push forward his agenda, just as you see happening today under the guise of “the children getting involved because they care”.

    We are in serious deep shit here with so few noticing it.

    I’ll be checking out that site you link to, sounds like one I’d enjoy and find like-minded folks in.

    Thank you again.

  3. I couldn’t agree more with all you have said. The effort to stamp out smoking and the massive brainwashing campaign may well have to do with the fact that nicotine doubles the efficiency of our brain. In addition, it’s a handy red herring to divert attention from the true cause of rising cancer rates: that being the military/industrial /big pharma poisoning of our air, food, water and soil. See this article for more info :
    As for putting something in the water, well they’ve done that too, fluoride causing a lowering of IQ among other health problems.
    It is truly astonishing how few people even care about what is going on, most have their heads stuck happily in the sand, and there are many who are so dulled by our poisoned environment and dumbed down education that they no longer have the ability to process new information.
    Nonetheless, those of us who are aware and are watching with mounting horror must continue to spread the word.
    Keep up the good work!

  4. Kate,

    I myself lived with my head in the sand for most of my life. It was only when the smoking bans started, that I woke up. I’m glad I did.

    All the fear mongering going on is all smoke and mirrors to distract us from what they are really doing.

    I do fear the path this country is racing down though.

  5. I think, and this may be one thing L was getting at, is that smoking is generally a certain type of person. Smokers generally are the tough give ’em hell types to start with. I don’t know if it started with James Dean or if it’s because of the way everyone has screamed up and down how smoking kills you, but we’re kind of rebellious by nature. A good many are very pro-privacy, anti-big government, pro-self responsibility, etc.

  6. Hey Jalestra, glad to see you here again!!! Loved your latest rant on your blog by the way. How’s the baby doing?

    And yes, we are rebellious to start with which is why most of us started smoking to begin with. But it does seem that our smoking appears to prevent whatever it is that has turned everyone else into passive, submissive sheep.

  7. hehe, Hi L. I lurk, and try to post when I have something interesting to say. The baby is doing very well, already growing like crazy. It’s bad enough we can’t keep up with the two year old in clothes, now David’s gonna get us too! LOL Thank goodness for hand me downs!

  8. ROFLMAO…..after the others you should have known by now how fast they grow……………hehehehehe You must be a glutton for punishment. I only had one, and that was more than enough for me. LOL

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